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January’s Blogs: Actions Speak Louder than Words, Wordy Bullshit, Branding, Links Today, TV Heaven, Enemies Bring Gifts, Debate on Dave Weinberger’s New Book, Change Now, Rant, What I did on my Holidays, Fame and Immortality (Me and Bill Gates),e-business failures, Parallels with my Father, Micropayments-The Future of the Internet, My First Day at School, Football Memories and a Chance in Life, Rivers Link People, Links, Design and Creativity, The Other Faces, 7UP, What is Voice?-Vision and Action, Writing in Progress, Latest Virus Alerts, When is a Weblog a Weblog, Hello 2002, Happy New Year, 2002 New Year’s Resolutions.

February Blogs: Spike Milligan Dies, Camp It Up!, Cluetrain Savaged (and the Nevilles), Goods Luck Elliot!, Monkey Brains, Busy and Thanks, MindMaps and Walter Winterbottom, Radio 8 Blog and Micropayments, Morning Pages, Women!, Jackson Browne Lyrics – Lives in the Balance, Let the Consumer and Employee Revolution Begin, Life and Death, Corporate Rant, Wilful Georgia!, Celebrity Blogs, United Internet, Friends Reunited at Work, Immunisation?, Good Business Leadership, No Logo, Definitely No Logo, Missing in Action, Paolo Di Canio.

 

March Blogs so far: Words Fail Me, Losing My Religion, Bush Fire?, Fucking Telstra, Redflagsweekly, The Best Companies to Work For?, Good to Be Back, Write On – Cling Sheets, Georgia, Redundancy, Am I a Loser?, Google Image Searches, Sporting DNA, Corporate DNA, My World has Changed, Internet Laugh, No Logo, Political Compass, Fark, Sex Sells,  Tourette Syndrome Barbie, Trailer Park (Trash?), Gauss Rifle, Bruce Sterling, Deep Links and Google Scientology, Jimmy Hill I love you because…,

 

Sunday 31st March 2002

Words Fail Me

Can’t think of anything to write about today.

Words fail me.

People died.  Queen Mum.  Barry Took.

 

Israel go into Arafat’s compound and in one stupid action lose the world’s sympathy for the atrocities of this week against innocent people.

All the media want to do now is interview Arafat.  I don’t get it.

 

Words fail me.  And I can’t link to my website to update with this writing.  So thanks again Telstra, yet again for the 6th day in succession you’ve really screwed up.  My words really have failed me.

 

Saturday 30th March 2002

Losing My Religion

Check this website out Beliefnet.com a website about religions.

 

It has a Belief-o-matic quiz to match your beliefs to a religion.

I keep scoring high for a different religion each time I’ve done the quiz.

 

Friday 29th March 2002

Bush Fire?

A friend just sent me this link Infowars.com -- Talk Radio's Alex Jones v. the New World Order,

Which led to this site The Writings of Greg Palast

A lot of conspiracy and Enron and Bush and now IMF and World Bank and Argentina.

Is it true?  I don’t know.  I read so much about it all on the Internet.

 

It set me thinking about some things that just don’t make sense to me.

My website has been down for 5 days.  I couldn’t update it for 3 days, and they’ve lost my data for 2 days.

I’ve had to reconstruct it myself.  This is Telstra, the Aussie Telco company, still 50% owned by the government.

They’re about to be allowed to buy into media.

How incompetent does a company have to be to have it’s customer’s websites down for 5 days and still no resolution or explanation.

And having put the price up in mid contract!

 

Israel.  I’m disgusted (beyond disgusted, sickened) by the hotel bombing in Netanya on Passover.

My Mum spent her honeymoon there, she lived 100 metres away.

But what I don’t get is why Israel would send in the tanks against Arafat.

Why not court world sympathy and show these people for what they are?

If Israel now retaliates it will be seen as a tit for tat fight and the rest of the world will not understand what happened this week.

This was old people on one of the most religious days of the Jewish year.

You can’t negotiate with these people.  They don’t want to negotiate.  They want to annihilate.

I also weep for Palestinians who are killed, but this goes far beyond.

This tells me that these people don’t want peace.  They don’t want peace for their own people.

 

Can’t 100 million of us not rise up and say enough is enough.

Enough war.

Enough share dealing.

Enough corruption and greed.

Enough bad service.

Enough drugs (and I mean pharmaceuticals)

Enough bad music.

Enough medical negligence and cover up.

Enough needless law suits.

Enough media stupidity.

Enough lying manipulating politicians.

Enough lawyers telling you what you could get if you fight it out.

Does it matter if I get $5m or $10m or $50m 0r $100m in settlement. (I’ll let you know when I have the choice!)

 

More honesty.  But what is the truth.  I don’t know any more.

 

Thursday 28th March 2002

Fucking Telstra

I don’t know how to put it more politely.

My website has been down for 5 days.  My ISP is Telstra.

For 3 days I haven’t been able to update it, and for 2 days the files have disappeared so my website doesn’t exist.

 

Words completely fail me.  I understand that things go wrong, but it's the ability to put them right that is the true measure.

And losing a whole network and websites by the leading Telco and biggest company in Australia will take some explaining.

 

Telstra put the price of my agreement with them a month ago, even though we had an agreement, and now the service is worse.

I hate them, and I’m not the only one.

Unfortunately the competition isn’t any better.  That’s the worst part of this sorry story.

Optus’s (the alleged competition) website has no information that tells me what I’m getting, or at least if it does, I couldn’t find the pricing for downloads.

Even worse, an Optus salesperson called on us, but we were busy.  She said she’d come round the next day at 5-00pm.

3 weeks later we’re still waiting.  You can’t get through on the phones to either Telstra or Optus.

If the Optus saleswoman had called the following day I may have given her the whole business, 2 mobile contracts, 1 cable agreement, 1 modem ISP agreement, 1 home phone, and 1 business phone, as well as a substantial amount of international phone calls.

 

What do I do?  You’d think that by going with the biggest company it would be safe.  But no.  they put the price up mid-contract, they cut back on services, and now, when a large network screws up, it really screws up big time.  At least with a small ISP they can put it right relatively quickly, even if they have to re-build the whole damn thing.

 

And I just don’t know where to go to find out what’s really happened.

 

Tuesday 26th March 2002

Redflagsweekly.com

Just found another health website www.redflagsweekly.com similar in tone to www.mercola.com

Some great articles and links.

Frightening though.

 

Takes me back to the things I’ve been banging on about around health.

 

Check out Redflagsweekly and Mercola.

 

Monday 25th March 2002

The Best Companies to Work For?

I was reading an article in Australian Business Review Weekly magazine dated March 14-20th 2002,

“Branding from the inside out”  I’d like to work with these types of companies that treat their staff well.

The article lists 10 companies in Australia that are the best to work for as rated by Hewitt Associates - Press Releases - 2002

 

Also, check out www.greatplacetowork.com  and The Sunday Times 50 Best Companies to Work For in the UK

 

 

I personally think this is the best pointer to what a company should be in terms of brand – How they treat their employees.  But I would take with a pinch of salt the results from these surveys.  Enron was 22nd in 2001.  Mind you they probably were a great company to work for, they paid you by robbing everyone else , including oneself!!!

 

Sunday 24th March 2002

Good to Be Back

I was in Sydney last week running Sales Training.

I’m finding it really difficult to get back to my writing and get in the rhythm of things.

I find that training and being on my feet for a few days really mentally and physically wipes me out.

I still haven’t gone back to my morning pages of 3 A4s handwritten, so let’s hope for tomorrow.

 

I think that Sydney is the most beautiful city in the world.

The hotel apartment where we stayed looked on to the Opera House.

And the room where I was training, looked on to the harbour and The Bridge.

 

I took my laptop with me and set myself up to continue writing my pieces on my laptop and downloading, but I just didn’t have the energy or time to do it.  Very Difficult, so consequently I’ve missed 10 days or writing.  I can’t believe it.

 

Georgia is 6 months old today.  Happy Half Birthday Georgia.

   

 

Thursday 14th March 2002

Write On – Cling Sheets

My life has changed as of today!

 

I went to Officeworks to buy a few office supplies and prepare for the training course I’m running next week.

I then just at the final isle, there it was almost hidden.

Write On – Cling Sheets  My dream come true.  Seriously, my dream has always been to have a home office with a wipeboard the size of the wall.

And oh my God, even this dream is coming true.

 

I’ve never seen this stuff before, but it’s flip chart size plastic sheeting which sticks to a wall by static and acts like a wipeboard.

So I can plaster my study with plastic flip sheets.  They’re re-usable as they act just like a wipeboard.

 

It’s driving Annie mad.  She hated my wipeboards in my lounge when we first met, and now we’ve moved to Australia, I haven’t had the opportunity to put a wipeboard up.

 

And now a miracle.  Wish me luck.  I can put a few up in the kitchen and lounge!

 

Creative Heaven!

 

Wednesday 13th March 2002

Georgia

Just looking at some Weblogs to gain inspiration and links for my Weblog today and I came to Wil Wheaton’s 7 Things I am Grateful for Today.

And I thought well, maybe if I can’t think of anything else or find some good links I’ll do a few things I’m grateful for today, and what would I have.

 

My first is Georgia, and I couldn’t get beyond that.  Georgia’s now 5½ months old.  I just get tears thinking about her and how precious and wonderful she is.  My dream come true.  And I don’t think it’s just us “Proud Parents”.  When we take her out everyone stops us to comment on how wonderful she is.  Waiters in restaurant swear she’s the most beautiful they’ve ever seen.  Are they just schmoozing us.  No!  They swear blind.

 

This is in danger of getting like describing my cats (I don’t have cats), which is the criticism of Weblogs.  Too much cat stuff.  But once in a blue moon I have to do a Georgia.

 

She’s very advanced in most areas for her age (Pushy Proud Parent).  She’s rolling, she’s holding finger rusks and insists on holding her cup of water.  She grabs at things with her little hands.  She’s already bored with her toys and wants real things to play with.  Lots of Da Da and Ma Ma but not quite yet linked with us, but I watched when she first seemed to touch things accidentally with her hands when only  a few weeks old, a knock of the rattle, but it was no accident and within a few weeks she was hitting and then holding the rattles.  So this Da Da and Ma Ma may be it.  At 5 months!  Almost sitting up unaided.  Screeching and Laughing and Smiling.  It brings tears to my eyes again.

 

I took some photos today so here are a few of them.  They click to bigger 50k photos, but I haven’t worked out a way of getting the Mouse rollover finger to work yet.

 

        

 

Tuesday 12th March 2002

Redundancy

I wasn’t going to write about this today, but I just found a link from Doc Searls which really struck a chord.

Over to you J.Digital and Endgame

“On such a day one would think I’d have some words of wisdom to share, rules to live by, or tricks to climbing your way to the top. But mostly I’m just happy to be free.

Free from the corporate mentality. Free from the politics of LL5 management, Sigma 6 and the other flavors-of-the-day. Free to write in perl or PHP, or to use any open source product. Free to wear a hat and sandals. Free not to attend meetings, but to be left-the-fuck-alone to get shit done.

But most important is the freedom to go anywhere from here. I vow never again to work for someone else’s riches. I am independent being, free to grow rich or die poor using my mind and the thousand bucks I’ve got in the bank. I refuse to be a slave to the shirt-and-tie drones of Ford or any other Fortune 500 company, now and forever.”

 

And today I was with colleagues who are rapidly becoming friends who are being made redundant this month, and a friend in the UK working for the same company finishes this week having taken voluntary redundancy.

 

It’s a shock.  I’ve been there myself.  11 years ago I was looking to leave Unisys, and I had 3 jobs lined up.  A colleague at work said wouldn’t it be funny if I was made redundant by Unisys because I would get the money as well.  Blow me down if I wasn’t called into my bosses office the following week, and handed “The Letter”.  All I could ask was “How Much?”.  Afterwards my idiot of a boss said,

“I have to say Tony, you’re taking this very well.”  Well I was planning to leave anyway but it was still a shock that I had been singled out, having survived 4 previous swings of the axe.  What annoyed me was this manager was being seen to do the right thing, he didn’t have to chop in this round, and I didn’t think he was a very good manager or person.

 

Looking back though, I have to say I wasn’t as good then at selling as I became.

All three jobs I had lined up all fell through and I was left in the lurch for 8 weeks.  One of the jobs resurrected itself and I signed to join them on the Monday.  On the Friday the second job resurrected, the one that I really wanted.  I went for the job I wanted and with regret told the first job I wasn’t joining them.  I don’t like breaking my word, but I had the best 7 years of selling after that.

 

In other words, I, like most others bounced back equal and higher than before.  Redundancy is usually a reflection of the company and not the individual.  You were employed for something good that someone saw in you!

 

But what I’m most struck by is my current situation.  I’ve left the employment of the corporate world after 20 years and I’m loving it.  Moved to Melbourne and set up independently and loving it.  Working from home, training at companies, looking for other long term projects, time with my 5 month old daughter during the day, and with Annie my wife (but not enough time!!).  I’m not there financially yet, but it sure is a relief to be away from the politics and an observer of it.  And boy am I observing some politics. 

 

Glad to be out of it.

 

 Monday 11th March 2002

Am I a Loser?

When you have a website, it gives you a voice.  But you are also in the public domain and open to criticism.  It’s fine line between cool and naff (a loser). 

 

Check out Loser dot Org.  Submissions of the saddest and worst websites.  I’ll bet some people are really proud of their website and can’t understand why they’re suddenly getting so many hits.  The first one I clicked on made me laugh and laugh.  What’s most worrying is that most of the dates of the websites are on my birthday Feb 6th.  Does it mean anything?

 

Are they laughing at me though?  Are the colours on my website really bad.  I mean this guy thinks he’s cool and he’d be gutted to know he’s on Loser dot Org, maybe it’s an old link and he’s improved.

 

Sunday 10th March 2002

Google Image Search, Clark Kent’s Ties, and Child Car Seats

Google is Awesome.  But I never tried the image search.

Search for images instead of text/documents/websites.

 

It’s not so extensive because of course it relies on either the photos being named, and let’s face it who names their photos with their full name, or some kind of tag to the photo.  Having said that, a few people who I know have appeared in the search.  Not many ex-girlfriends though!!  Mind you, I don’t appear either on an image search but I do on a Web search.  I realise it’s most useful if you want to illustrate something when writing.  So a search for Troy Tempest would have been useful recently.

 

More Fark.  Clark Kent’s ties!!!!  My oh my the Internet is wide and varied.

 

Mind you, just bought a Child Car Seat for Georgia.  Could I find the model I was looking for on the Internet.  Was there loads of wordy bullshit but nobody actually doing what’s needed?  Yes.  All I’m asking for is either a consumer site like www.ciao.com for Australia where consumers review products (if it exists I couldn’t find it), or a website that compares Child Seats for sale in Australia. And I mean really compares them.  Price, Safety Tests, What types of tests, links to other sites.

Either I missed something in my searches or there’s a big gap here.  The best I could come up with was

Assessment of Child Restraint Performance

VicRoads - Road Safety Brochures

 

Saturday 9th March 2002

Sporting DNA

There’s something about sports teams and the DNA that flows through them.  The DNA of the past.

My fascination is with sporting history.  There are some teams programmed to win. 

Often beyond their capacity to win.  It's like fate and luck plays a hand as well.  All I can give is examples.

Let's start with English Football (that's Soccer to you New World plebs).  Some teams like Manchester United, Arsenal and Liverpool are destined to win, beyond money and resource.  Some teams are destined to never win no matter what their resource (Newcastle, Chelsea come to mind!).  Man Utd are 1-0 down to Bayern Munich with 5 minutes to go and yet somehow you know their destiny is to win.  Bang, 2 goals in 5 mins and Europe is theirs (Man City in the same season were 2-0 down with 5 mins to go and bang they win 3-2 to gain promotion.)  Destiny.  DNA

 

Swedish Tennis.  The players seem to have the DNA of Bjorn Borg in them.  It's not the resources and coaching in Sweden it something beyond that.  Britain needs a Bjorn Borg.  Tim Henman becomes world class (allegedly) when we import some Canadian DNA. Ovett begat Coe begat Cram.

 

DNA is attempting to be genetically modified with first draft picks in Pro-Football, Basketball and do you have draft picks for Baseball?  Aussie Rules Football as well. (What is it that Aussies who can't skate have a guy in the final lying last and bang all four in front of him fall down.)  Why is that the only Brit skier to ever win anything is found positive for drugs (That's negative fate working!).

 

I better make some DNA sports predications..

 

 

And whilst we’re on sport, there’s a great article by Danny Kelly at Football 365 on how easy it is to manage a Premiership football team.

The ones at the bottom yo-yo and as long as you get the players to try their hardest you’ll be in a job.

The ones in the middle stay in the middle and have the resources to stay in the middle.

The top clubs have so much money it’s just a matter of where they finish in the top 6.

Simple.

 

And finally some more links from Fark

Operation Infinite Purity - Winning the War on Masturbation - WHITEHOUSE.ORG

 

Shaving Private Ryan - Menessentials Grooming Tips!  Why?

 

Friday 8th March 2002

Corporate DNA

I’ve been thinking a lot about this from Doc Searls;

 

“For a number of good reasons, something that didn't make it into

Cluetrain was a half-baked belief of mine that companies have

personalities that transcend whatever "strategic" BS they think

they're up to. I haven't baked this a lot more than I had in 1999,

but I still believe it. In the same way that Apple comes from Steve

Jobs and Steve Jobs comes from Art (see

<http://www.scripting.com/davenet/stories/DocSearlsonSteveJobs.html>),

IBM still comes from Watson and GE comes from Edison, Johnson &

Johnson comes from General Johnson and Wal-Mart comes from Sam

Walton. The dead white guys on the walls of  corporate headquarter

lobbies exert influence from beyond the grave. They're programmed

into the corporate DNA. They make decisions about the stuff that's

decided long before the subject even comes up.

 

This is what doomed every company that sold its dream to a V.C., by

the way. And the DotCom bubble especially.

 

Okay, that's simplistic and perhaps more than a little fulla shit.

But just hold it in mind for a moment while reading John Perry

Barlow's Death From Above:

<http://www.eff.org/Publications/John_Perry_Barlow/HTML/death_from_above.html>.

 

That top-down eyeball-on-a-pyramid military mentality is still alive

and a little too well. It's not highly viable, long-term (not in

markets that get smarter faster than companies do); but it's still

here in the short, and that's the time frame for most of our

paychecks.”

 

Thursday 7th March 2002

My World has Changed

I was walking by the sea today in Melbourne near my home.

I realised that on September 11th 2001 my world changed.  Well didn’t it for most people!

Why did I realise it today?

 

Well my daughter who is now 5 months old was due on that day.

I met with a colleague at the Café by the sea that day that I was sitting at today.

I spoke to that colleague for the first time yesterday and when I was down by the sea today I realised that after I saw him the last time,

I went home and watched in horror as the world changed.

And as I looked out across the Melbourne skyline, I realise that I see it in a different light.

I don’t look at the tall skyscrapers in wonder and wish I was working up there with that kind of view,  I initially wonder if a plane could fly into that building.

That’s a real shame on top of all the lives that have been lost since, that I look across a skyline and my first thought is of a plane crashing into the building.

 

Some great websites surfed last night

 

JOHO the Blog talking about a speech on Instant Messaging and illustrated with some magic links,

 

Internet Mapping Project was one of the links about Network maps.  Mind Blowing.

 

And check this link out from Rageboy, another one to make you laugh Racing Car Noises!

 

Wednesday 6th March 2002

Internet Laugh

Nothing on the Internet usually makes me laugh out loud but I can’t stop laughing at this triple whammy from Fark

 

Guardian Unlimited | Special reports | Highway robbery as bus thief takes fares for a ride

and the best bit is,

“But the thief may be trapped, thanks to the work of a happy bus spotter who not only watched the buses on the day of the crime but also filmed them: he has handed his videotape to detectives.”

 

BBspot - Vatican Endorses .NET Messenger Service God recommends Microsoft?

 

The Scotsman - Scotland - Couple tip cabbie with a grenade

 

Tuesday 5th March 2002

No Logo

Just finished reading No Logo –Naomi Klein.

Great book, well researched, very readable.

I feared it being a bit too lefty and right-on, but it grabbed me and convinced me.

 

Went for a walk yesterday to my favourite view overlooking Port Philip and there was a guy there just starting the book.

At the end of the day as I’ve said before we have a choice with most branded products.  Don’t buy them if you don’t agree with them.

I don’t tend to buy them because I’m a function kind of guy and not a fashion guru.

I buy generally because it does the job and is a good design and other people have recommended it.

 

I couldn’t find one thing in the house the other day that I’d bought because of advertising or branding.  Honestly.

Everything was because of function or recommendation.

That doesn’t mean these corporations can carry on and get away with it forever.

The world is changing.  And by coincidence a friend sent me this which is a good summary to No Logo.

 

Unfortunately the link also led to this report on TIME.com: Can We Stop the Next Attack? Very depressing.

 

Monday 4th March 2002

Political Compass, Fark, Sex Sells,  Tourette Syndrome Barbie, Trailer Park (Trash?), Gauss Rifle

Right, from now on I’m going to use Fark for my cool internet links.  Lot’s of trashy news and links.

 

Take the political compass test to see if you’re a Pinko or Genghis. (The link did work but now it doesn’t.  I’ll keep it there just in case it recovers)

The other links I’ve taken from Fark.

Sex Sells.  Met a guy last year who predicted this would happen with 3G mobiles.

Tourette Syndrome Barbie.  Yes it’s true.

Trailer Park (Trash?)

How to make a Gauss Rifle (Magnetic Gun type thing)

 

That’s enough links for today.

 

Sunday 3rd March 2002

Bruce Sterling, Deep Links and Google Scientology

Rageboy points us to Bruce Sterling,

“And those overachievers from Enron, my God! Thinking so far outside the box that they're in the witness box.”

The article is very good.

 

And Dave Winer points to Jakob Nielsen talking about putting deep links into ones website.  Holy Shit, I’ll have to work on that somehow with my Word2002 website!

 

Oh yes and I forgot about this one.  An article on how Google works by looking at how the Scientologists are allegedly building their servers to link to each other.

 

Friday 1st March 2002

Jimmy Hill I love you because…

Football 365 runs a column for pundits to write in. The Nevilles I love you because…, Football 365 Headlines I love you because…,  Shaun Goater I love you because…, etc etc.

 

Here’s my contribution.  I hope they publish it!!

 

“Jimmy Hill I love you because

 

of your big chin.

 

I love the way you stick your chin out (quite literally) on controversial subjects and that you have been with me and football for all my life.

 

I love that you have done everything in football except manage England.

 

I love that you’ve seen them all come and go and you’re still there, the old man of football along with Bobby Robson and Bobby Charlton (ok ok poetic licence here, there are still some older ones knocking around).

 

I love that everyone else hates you.

I love that you know that everyone hates you and you take it with good grace.

I love your good grace (like Bobby Robson and Bobby Charlton).

 

I love how you play straight man to the clowns of football (come to think of it, like Bobby Robson and Bobby Charlton!).

 

I love how unglamorous you are in the face of the now glamorous game.

 

I love that you know your limitations and in spite of those you have been successful in almost everything you’ve turned your hand to.

 

I love that like the Neville brothers (see previous I love you) that you give hope to all us amateur pundits. 

 

I love that you invented punditry

 

I love how you have been everything in the game, player, manager, chairman, PFA chairman, pundit, interviewer, interviewee, entrepreneur, linesman, TV executive (have I missed any?).

 

I love your enthusiasm for the game and that you advise clubs on potential managers and players to help the game.

 

I love that you and I are the only people who thought Carlton Palmer played well for England.

 

I loved your enthusiasm for American Soccer (despite its collapse!).

 

I love your desire to improve stadiums (before they were improved).

 

I love that no-one can remember you when you played.

 

I love your recent interviews with old hack football managers like Big Ron and Brian Clough.

 

I love how you stood up to Hansen, and Terry Venables seemed to hate you and has achieved much less over time.

 

I love that you ended the minimum wage which has led to the overpayment of top football stars and the potential bankrupting of football.

 

 

I love how you volunteered to be the fourth umpire/linesman/referee’s assistant when they needed an expert to run the line. 

 

I love that you are the common theme of modern English football from the early 60s.  Good and Bad.

 

And most of all I love that more often than not you are right.

That if people stopped looking at your big chin and kept saying “Oh no it’s Jimmy Hill” the Aunt Sally of English football, what you say and have said all along is mostly right, more often than some of the more glamorous pundits. (“You’ll never win anything with kids.”)

You have changed the face of the game, the players, the stadiums, the pundits, the delivery.

 

I love that you represent the workhorses of football rather than those fancy-dan glam footballers that are never up to it anyway.

 

You Jimmy are the Jimmy Case, the John McGovern, the Ray Kennedy, the Kevin Richardson, the Gary and Phil Neville, the Phil Neal, the Nicky Butt of football.  Unsung, most caps, most appearances, most successful.”